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- In article <C0vw8B.23F@udecc.engr.udayton.edu>, mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U)) writes:
- >closet, a tad smaller than the one stated in the FAQ file. Anyway, he just
- >started his little weed farm a few days ago and is wondering how long it will
- >take for things to start happening. He is a bit impatient, so I am trying to
-
- Two weeks or so for the seeds to sprout. But soil is not the best sprouting
- medium. Try a moist paper towel folded around them. Be sure it stays
- moist.
-
- >get some facts to keep him at it. :) Also, his seeds are apparently what he
- >called "red bud" seeds. Are these any good, or does that even mean anything?
-
- Large, mature seeds are best. From what I understand "red bud" is pretty
- mature.
-
- >Also, he has them planted in two pots, one with regular "potting" soil (god
- >I love that word, "pot"), and the other with some kind of soil made for
- >cactus plants, which is kind of sandy.
-
- Either should be good. The roots need both air and water, so be sure your
- soil has good drainage.
-
- >walls (in the closet) are covered with aluminum foil. He has some Miracle-
- >Grow plant food (liquid), but I told him not to use it until I ask if it is
- >a good idea. Is it? Has anyone out there ever had success with growing?
-
- A high nitrogen fertilizer (such as Miracle Grow) is great for the
- vegetative phase, but may inhibit flowering if continued into the floral
- phase. What else is there to say? Follow the directions on the bottle.
- 14-24 hours of light for the vegetative phase, then once they get big cut
- back to 9-12 hours to make them flower. Get a book with illustrations of
- what male and female buds look like, and throw out the males as soon as
- they differentiate (unless you want to make seeds).
-
- >am quite interested in hearing any stories or comments on successes/failures.
-
- All my stories are the ones I've read in "High Times". Pick up a copy.
-
- Keith Lewis klewis@mitre.org "Mr. Cheap"
- I don't dance to music; music dances to me. Email me for my PGP key.
- The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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- In article <1992Nov25.024723.5353@seq.uncwil.edu> session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
- >aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile) writes:
- >
- >Germinate your seeds first. One way I have done it to place them about an
- >inch or two apart between several layers of paper towels in a flat pan.
- >Keep the paper towels moist. Kep the plan in a non-cold place. Doesn't
- >need to be really hot, just not cold. Viable seeds should be 1 to 2
- >inch long sprouts in a week or two. Then plan the sprouts.
- >
- >--
- >Zack Sessions
-
- Key point here, and one that can't be
- stressed enough - KEEP THE PAPER TOWELS
- MOIST !!!
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- jdw%sniff.wfo.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com
-
-
- I've a FOAF who carefully germinates his seeds in moist paper towels
- (totally dark, warm place, towels constantly wetted, drop of bleach per
- towel to fight mold), carefully transplants them to rockwool as soon as the
- tip appears out of the crack in the seed (do *not* let them get "an inch or
- two long"; this makes transplanting without killing the seedling difficult),
- making sure he puts the seed in pointed tip up, then eventually to the
- next step up of rockwool size, then eventually to a rock bed for hydroponic
- growing.
-
- Another FOAF sticks them in water-soaked pots of soil, 1/2" down, point up,
- and keeps them in a warm dark place, wetting the top twice daily. Then he
- just moves them under plain old cool-white flourescents, and they are never
- transplanted.
-
- FOAF #1 has decided to go with FOAF #2s germinating and starting technique.
- Both were getting comparable results with the two methods (at least for
- germination; #1 has a halide set-up and more space). For example: FOAF #2
- just had five babies born yesterday, starting with five seeds. The babies
- are doing fine, and will never suffer transplantation.
-
- Two more tips:
- A Russian study showed that seedlings with at least 4" of soil to grow the
- tap root were more likely to go female. The source I'm quoting says "This
- may be why some farmers get female/male ratios as great as 80%/20%."
-
- Seeds do not last forever, although they can last years if kept in a light-
- tight container. If you use either method above and get >50% germination,
- get some better stock.
-
- UCSD doesn't share these views. Hell, I bet they don't know a thing
- about tomato farming.
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-
- I recently saw a *very small* indoor garden that used 4 common shop lights.
-
- The gardener was using two 12" x 4' shelves attached to adjacent basement
- walls. They were remarkably discreet and almost entirely above eye level.
- Above both shelves he had suspended a pair of 4' shop lights, which ran
- parallel to the shelf, right next to each other. In these lights he used
- both regular ol' 40W fluorescent tubes and the more expensive "grow lights".
- The decision of which to choose was solely an economic one. Fluorescent tubes
- can be found for a buck or two while the purple grow tubes can be rather
- pricey.
-
- The wall and ceiling above the shelves were covered with heavy duty aluminum
- foil. Also hanging above the shelves, right above the edge, were several
- homemade blinds. These "blinds" were simply a black sheet of vinyl and a white
- sheet of vinyl which were attached a 4' piece of wood. The wooden strip had
- then been fastened to the ceiling. The white vinyl hung to the inside and was
- able to reflect light back onto the plants while the black vinyl hung to the
- outside, making the whole set-up practically invisible. When he needs to
- water, etc. the vinyl is rolled up by hand and tied with a short piece of cord.
- And it can be held in its unrolled position rather nicely by a few strips of
- velcro.
-
- The ends of the shelves used a different homemade set-up. Using more vinyl
- shades would have suffocated the plants. Instead, he cut a piece of cardboard
- to fit the opening and into the top portion of this cardboard he cut a hole.
- The inside of the cardboard was covered with aluminun foil and the outside was
- painted black. Velcro was attached to the cardboard, the shelf and the ceiling
- so that this panel could be easily attached and removed. Next, he hung two
- small fans from the ceiling. (the clip fans cost him $6.00@ and were his most
- expensive purchase) One fan hung on the outside of his little grow house and
- one on the inside. One fan blew fresh air into the house and the other blew
- air out.
-
- On one of these shelves the lights were kept on 24 hours each day. Here he
- germinated and grew his herbs to the budding point. The other shelf was
- magical! The lights were cut back and his crop was allowed to reach maturation.
- It was so simple! It was so beautiful! It was so small! It was so inexpensive!
-
- A setup like this could work almost anywhere.
-
- Stop participating in organized crime. Grow it yourself!
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- > In article <1993Jan25.063528.16779@fuug.fi>, an2509@anon.penet.fi writes:
- > >I've tried to start cannabis seeds several times, using the suggestions
- > >offered in alt.drugs (germinate between wet paper towels, keep them warm, etc.).
- > >I've gotten about 5 or 6 seeds to the point where the shell of the seed opens
- > >and a small white shoot pushes out of the crack. But the seeds seem to dies
- > >upon transplanting to soil. Is it probably just a bad batch of seeds (all of
-
- Seed germination, be it with cannabis seeds or any kind of seeds, is a
- delicate art.
-
- The warm paper towels system works well, but I'd keep them in paper towels
- until you have a bit more sprout than just a small white shoot. I would
- wait until the shoot is a little more than 1/4" long.
-
- When you transplant them into potting soil, use commercial potting soil
- that has been well dampened before hand. Mixing a bit of peat moss into
- the damp soil might be helpful.
-
- Pot your seeds close to the surface -- I usually lay the seeds on top
- of an almost full pot, press the shoots _lightly_ into the soil, and
- then just sprinkle some more potting soil on top. Then water; all the
- soil should be kept damp, but not wet, at all times.
-
- Something I've found helps seeds in the trnasition from paper towels
- to soil is to cover the pot with plastic wrap and put it in a sunny window.
- Poke a few pinholes in the wrap so that air can get in, and check it
- daily. Keep the soil damp -- this is crucial. Cannabis in particular
- *loves* water. Don't drown it, and if it starts molding leave the
- plastic off the pot for a bit, but keep it damp and warm and moist.
-
- Once your shoots start up to where they're pressing against the wrap, you
- can leave the wrap off. But again, keep the soil wet -- even one day dried
- out can kill all the shoots.
-
- Hope all this helps; I've only grown pot once, but I'm a chronic
- gardener, and much of the same rules apply.
-
-
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- Laura Lemay lemay@netcom.com
- writer of trifles in shadows and blood
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- Plants (and mj in particular) respond to different wavelengths of light
- differently. The optimum wavelengths for chlorophyll production and
- photosynthesis occur in the red and blue ranges, so any light in the middle
- of the visible spectrum is good for vegetative growth. In short, ordinary
- fluorescent lights work great; most incandescents are crappy because they
- put out too much infared (wastes energy, produces heat) and not enough blue.
-
- It has been suggested that THC is produced as a defense against short
- wavelength ultraviolet light (UV-short). This would explain any truth to
- the rumor that the best ganga is grown at high altitudes. As far as I know,
- no studies have been done. Other botanists speculate that THC is merely an
- insect repellant. Even so, the photochemical potential of UV-short cannot
- be ignored.
-
- Here are some spectral density graphs (simplified to ASCII)
- from _IES Lighting Handbook_
-
- 250| Cool White (fluorescent)
- | |
- 200| | | ****
- | | |******
- Power 150| | *******
- (mw/10nm | | *******
- /lumen) 100| | | *********
- | | | *******************
- 50| | | |**********************
- |**********************************
- +------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
- 300 400 500 600 700 800
- <--UV Blue Green Red IR-->
- Wavelength (nm)
-
-
-
- 250| | Daylight (fluorescent)
- | |
- 200| | |
- | | | |
- Power 150| | | **
- (mw/10nm | | ****| ****
- /lumen) 100| | | *************
- | | | ****************
- 50| | |**|*******************
- |********************************
- +------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
- 300 400 500 600 700 800
- <--UV Blue Green Red IR-->
- Wavelength (nm)
-
-
-
- |Incandescent Lamps (including tungsten-halogen)
- | *********
- | *****************
- Relative | ***********************
- Power | ***************************
- | *******************************
- | ***********************************
- | ***************************************
- | *******************************************
- |***********************************************
- +------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
- 300 400 500 600 700 800 900
- <--UV Blue Green Red IR-->
- Wavelength (nm)
-
- [This is presumably for 3000 K incandesents. Higher temperatures would
- produce this same black-body radiation spectrum shifted to the left. Of
- course, you would then need UV protection. There are fluorescents available
- that simulate *only the visible portion* of 6000-7000 K black bodies. Why
- anybody would use incandescent light for growing when these efficient
- fluorescents are available is beyond me.]
-
- Mercury and metal halide lamp spectrums are concentrated in a few "spikes"
- distributed through the visible spectrum. They would probably work fine for
- photosynthesis.
-
- The low-pressure sodium is pretty much a single spike in the yellow; high
- pressure sodium has spikes from green to red (not much blue).
-
- No regular lights put out significant UV-short, otherwise they would cause
- skin cancer. UV-short lights are designed into special box-type devices
- (such as EPROM erasers) for safety. If you do elect to experiment with
- UV-short, do not allow any humans or animals in the room when the light is
- on. Please post the results of any such experiment to alt.drugs. Inquiring
- minds want to know.
-
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